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The joy in using NTSC and PAL formats


Its only recently i discovered the great fun it can be to capture a NTSC formatted vhs tape to my pc which being in Europe means everything is in a PAL format. Even the vhs players you buy now which most are compatible to play both formats doesn't actually convert the tape so recording is a whole new ball game, often ending in frustration violence and constantly shouting work you ba..ard :bang:

Its the same both sides of the Atlantic with the Americans who invented NTSC unable to use our PAL equipment although dvd's thank god are easy to overcome as a simple region free program enables you to view and record both region 1+2 formats. Its the vhs tapes that pose the problem.

The reason for the two formats are all down to when colour was invented for the tv, then the split started as America used one way to put colour on the screen and Europe used a different method . And what a great idea that was :thumbsup
Ever since then its caused nothing but grief and a pain in the arse, especially with vhs tapes.

Although ive been advised its best to stay clear of getting vhs in that format, but sometimes its the only option when looking for old films or unrated versions so its impossible to stay clear of.
So far the methods I know about are either sending the tape off to be converted which is expensive at £20 a hour, or you can buy a converter but you also need A proper NTSC vhs player for it to work so again quite expensive,
and the other method and cheapest is to hook a dvd recorder to the vhs player and record it that way.
This is the one im currently trying and went out and bought a dvd recorder to discover it wont read any NTSC formats, which i didn't realise they ever had a problem with, but yet again another problem to overcome and back to banging my head against wall and shouting work you ba...ard :bang:

Are there any another methods that anyone has used which has been successful other than the ones mentioned.

Any help with this would be much appreciated :drink: :rockin: :rockin:

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Image


info:

http://www.hdstep.com/product.php?productid=16319&cat=307&page=1


maybe we need this bloody thing.
i'm sorry to hear about that ntsc incompatible present to yourself, but this might be a solution.

Never The Same Colour anymore. :bang:
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Well the answer to the problem is definatly that little box of tricks in the picture above.

If there is one piece of equipment that i consider highly recommendable its this. The Atlona Multivideo system converter, and the price is very reasonable if not excellent value.
To buy a dvd recorder that can tape different formats would cost between 3-4 times the amount that this converter does.

Its also very easy to use and simple to set up. It basically has a lead from the video player going to the input and a output lead that goes straight into a tv, dvd, and p.c which ever you want to view it on and the converter does the rest.

If you have a multi format video player, it will work fine, all you do is push the input button to say what format the tape is ntsc or pal and then on the output you choose what its being converted to, so either ntsc to pal or pal to ntsc, and no more split pictures or bands of colour running along the screen.
It also as i mentioned can plug straight to the p.c so you can save to hard drive in the format you require. :drink:

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great!
i knew it!
a thing looking as simple as my first radio-alarmclock, could never let us down.
cheers man. i will follow. :drink:
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Hi,

i had a similar problem last year and luckily, I managed to solve it.
I myself had a HUGE pile of pure-ntsc tapes with titles on them that I wanted to transfer to DVD.

after various searches on the internet of:
"DVD RECORDERS THAT RECORD IN NTSC"...

I came across a few sites that recommended this DVD Recorder: PHILIPS DVDR70 OR DVDR75.

This Recorder will record your NTSC tapes as it has a built in NTSC Tuner.
And you wanna know the weird thing. Wait for it.......

Your VCR does not have to be outputting a PURE NTSC signal. YES - This DVD Recorder can record that "fake ntsc" signal and make the end result a true NTSC - if that make sense.
It EVEN says in the instruction booklet that it records NTSC signals!

(You know those VCR's that have NTSC Playback)

I bought this DVD Recorder and it is GREAT!!
It's a few years old now..
I paid £140.00 for it, however, I've seen it in second-hand shops for around £65.00.

I think this would be a cheap option as most DVD players can read PAL or NTSC, so I'd recommend it!

Here are a few links:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-DVDR75-DVD-Recorder/dp/B0000A9YZY

http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-132962.html

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f34/pal-format-dvd-through-ntsc-86604/

Hope this helps!!

Cheers
Andy

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oops, sorry for not checking this outcorner more regularly, but better late than never.
thanks for the tip Andy, much appreciated.
í live in the middle of Philips town, so it shouldn't be too hard to find a bargain here.



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